{"id":6040,"date":"2019-10-04T09:11:53","date_gmt":"2019-10-04T08:11:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/jerichowriters.com\/townhouse\/articles\/whitna-raffle-wur-geen-and-gottin-wursels-intae-noo\/"},"modified":"2019-10-04T09:11:53","modified_gmt":"2019-10-04T08:11:53","slug":"whitna-raffle-wur-geen-and-gottin-wursels-intae-noo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jerichowriters.com\/whitna-raffle-wur-geen-and-gottin-wursels-intae-noo\/","title":{"rendered":"Whitna raffle wur geen and gottin wursels intae noo"},"content":{"rendered":"

My last post was about \u2013<\/p>\n

Well, I can\u2019t remember, because the thing that dominated your reactions afterwards was my use of y\u2019all<\/em>. In particular, I had people writing to me from Scotland, Northern Ireland & Australia telling me that I didn\u2019t have to raid the American South to come with a perfectly good you-plural, when I could use a perfectly good Scottish\/Irish\/Aussie youse<\/em>.<\/p>\n

And youse\u00a0<\/em>feels just right. I\u2019m going to use it more often from now on.<\/p>\n

But that brings us on to the matter of which version of English we should respect as authoritative.<\/p>\n

Standard British English (SBE), because the Queen speaks it? Standard American English (SAE), because Donald Trump speaks it (kinda)? Or maybe some other kind of English, because both those Englishes have had their turn in the sun?<\/p>\n

The answer, of course, is that it\u2019s a stupid question. No particular English is more authoritative or appropriate than another. You speak with (and write with) whatever\u2019s right for the job at hand.<\/p>\n

Now most of you, I expect, write in SBE or SAE, and I\u2019m sure you do that proficiently enough. But what when you have a character who doesn\u2019t speak one of those Englishes? Perhaps that character speaks (for example) African-American Vernacular English (AAVE)? Or perhaps they\u2019re someone who speaks English, imperfectly, as a second language?<\/p>\n

So how do you represent their dialogue<\/a> on the page? How do you, in printed form, capture the way they speak?<\/p>\n

Either way, you don\u2019t necessarily want to stuff your SAE \/ SBE into the mouth of that character. That might show a kind of disrespect to the character and the language they speak. (Which would be stupid, not least because those other Englishes are quite often more expressive. Did you know, for example, that AAVE has a full four versions of the past tense: I been bought it, I done buy it, I did buy it, I do buy it<\/em>? Sweet, huh? AAVE has three versions of the future too.)<\/p>\n

So you\u2019re determined to honour the status and expressive power of those other Englishes. But how?<\/p>\n

Let\u2019s say, for example, that you have a Yorkshireman as a character in your MS. (Yorkshire is a large and self-confident county in the North of England.) Let\u2019s say your novel is set in the London advertising world. Most of your characters don\u2019t talk Yorkshire. This particular one \u2013 we\u2019ll call him Geoffrey \u2013 does. You want to mark the way he speaks as being different; that\u2019s part of what makes him who he is. It\u2019s part of the richness of your characters and the dialogues they get into.<\/p>\n

Well, we could have our Geoffrey speak like this:<\/p>\n

Ear all, see all, say nowt;
Eat all, sup all, pay nowt;
And if ivver tha does owt fer nowt \u2013
\u00a0Allus do it fer thissen.<\/em><\/p>\n

(That\u2019s the \u2018Yorkshire motto\u2019 and translates as: Hear all, see all, say nothing. Eat all, drink all, pay nothing. \u00a0And if ever you do something for nothing \u2013 always do it for yourself.)<\/p>\n

But doesn\u2019t that look unbelievably patronising? We have our book full of London ad-world types, then in walks Geoffrey sounding like something dragged from the rougher end of one of the Bronte novels. It would be hard to have Geoffrey speak like that on the page and not somehow create the idea that he was comical, or stupid, or boorish, or ignorant.<\/p>\n

The solution, of course, is precision. (Most things in writing are.)<\/p>\n

Take a look at that motto again. Some of the words are exactly the same as Standard British English, but just rendered phonetically \u2013 ear<\/em> for hear<\/em>, ivver\u00a0<\/em>for ever<\/em>. But why do that? We don\u2019t generally write phonetically. When I talk, I\u2019ll seldom pronounce the last g in going<\/em>, though some English speakers would. So if you were writing a character like me in a novel, would you write goin\u2019<\/em> for going<\/em>? Surely not.<\/p>\n

So rule 1 is: You don\u2019t describe accents phonetically<\/strong>. Doing so just looks patronising and clumsy.<\/p>\n

But that rams you straight into the second issue, which is: what do you do when you encounter a word (like the Yorkshire nowt<\/em>) that just doesn\u2019t exist in SAE or SBE?<\/p>\n

And the answer there is equally obvious: nowt is a perfectly legitimate word. It just happens to be a Yorkshire one, not an SAE \/ SBE one.<\/p>\n

So rule 2 is: You include non-standard words \/ phrases \/ grammar in exactly the way that your character would use them<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

So we\u2019d rewrite our Yorkshire motto as follows:<\/p>\n

Hear all, see all, say nowt;
Eat all, sup all, pay nowt;
And if ever tha does owt for nowt
\u00a0Allus do it for thissen.<\/em><\/p>\n

That removes the patronising phonetics, but honours the separateness of Yorkshire-ese by including its words and phrases in full. You haven\u2019t lost a jot of local character. All you\u2019ve lost is a metropolitan sneer towards non-SAE\/SBE speakers.<\/p>\n

If you wanted to tone this down a bit (and I would), I\u2019d use always\u00a0<\/em>for allus<\/em>, and maybe yourself\u00a0<\/em>for thissen<\/em>. I\u2019d probably also swap in you\u00a0<\/em>for tha<\/em>, just because you want to nudge the reader about a character\u2019s voice and accent. You don\u2019t need to bellow.<\/p>\n

And \u2013<\/p>\n

You can have fun. I once created a character who stemmed from the Orkney Islands, off the north Coast of Scotland. Even by Scottish standards, Orkney is remote \u2013 so much so that it spoke Norn (a version of Norse, the language of the Vikings) until a couple of hundred years ago. Since then, that Norn has softened out into Orcadian, which is a sister language to Scots, which is a sister language to English.<\/p>\n

But \u2013<\/p>\n

It\u2019s a strange and beautiful thing. The language is sort of comprehensible to a regular English speaker, but only just.<\/p>\n

So on the one hand, my Orcadian character (Caff) says things like this:<\/p>\n

\u2018Ye\u2019r a guid peedie lassie. Th\u2019 wurst damn cook a\u2019m ever seen, but a guid lassie fur a\u2019 that.\u2019<\/em><\/p>\n

You might not know what peedie\u00a0<\/em>means (small), but the rest of it is straightforward.<\/p>\n

On the other hand, Caff also says things like this:<\/p>\n

\u2018Thoo dohnt wahnt tae be skelp while turning,\u2019 he says, as his hands show a big wave hitting the ship side-on as it turns. \u2018If tha\u2019 happens, we\u2019ll hae oor bahookie in th\u2019 sky in twa shakes o\u2019 a hoor\u2019s fud.\u2019<\/em><\/p>\n

And this:<\/p>\n

\u2018Whitna raffle wur geen and gottin wursels intae noo, eh? A right roo o\u2019 shite.\u2019<\/em><\/p>\n

I wouldn\u2019t say that those are totally incomprehensible \u2013 roo of shite\u00a0<\/em>means roughly what you think it might \u2013 but you wouldn\u2019t especially want to be tested on the detail.<\/p>\n

When writing that kind of thing, you want to dance your reader along a line of comprehension \/ bafflement. I reckoned that readers wouldn\u2019t know what skelp meant, so I added half a line of explanatory text about waves hitting ships to make it clear. But whitna raffle, roo of shite, bahookie in th\u2019 sky\u00a0<\/em>and the rest of it \u2013 well, I just wanted to dangle those lovely, strange phrases in front of my readers\u2019 noses, so we could enjoy their Nordic, sea-green beauty without comment.<\/p>\n

My character\u2019s reactions to this dialogue were much as yours or mine would be. She understood some of what she was being told, but not all of it. Her own ripples of confusion added a layer of enjoyment to the interactions.<\/p>\n

Oh, and if you\u2019re sitting there quietly impressed by my mastery of Orcadian \u2026 well, I did what I could using a dictionary that I bought online. Then I sent the relevant chunks of my draft to the editor of The Orcadian newspaper, and he was kind enough to correct my text where it needed it.<\/p>\n

That\u2019s all from me. Youse\u00a0<\/em>have a good weekend.<\/p>\n

But tell me what strange and beautiful accents do you incorporate in your work? And how do you represent them on the page? Do you have especial bugbears? Or things you love. Or bits of dialogue that you use as a model. Drop in a comment below and let’s all have a Heated Debate.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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Oh yes, and I'm the capo di tutti capi at Jericho Writers.","url":"https:\/\/jerichowriters.com\/author\/harryjericho\/"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/jerichowriters.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6040","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/jerichowriters.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/jerichowriters.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jerichowriters.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/32"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jerichowriters.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6040"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/jerichowriters.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6040\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jerichowriters.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/6041"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/jerichowriters.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6040"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jerichowriters.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6040"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jerichowriters.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6040"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}